Anti-Maori hategroups

avatr  Mana News editor Joe Trinder

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New Zealand  has a plethora of anti-Maori hate groups, and many are linked with the National Party. John Ansell, a marketing consultant and  good friend of former National leader  Don Brash, designed the  Kiwi/Iwi election campaign advertisements that suggested New Zealanders who were members of an Iwi were no longer “Kiwi”.  Ansell’s relationship with National is still strong  – they hired him for the 2014 elections to run a smear campaign against the Greens. He was better qualified to run the smear campaign against the Maori Party but they are allied with National.

ansell  John Ansell, Treatygate

Ansell runs the hate group Treatygate,  an organisation that is highly critical of Maori New Zealanders.  Treatygate claims that if an Iwi receives a settlement from brutal land confiscations, that  makes them a corporation. Ansell is convinced British racial superiority exists and claims Maori lack gratitude for colonisation.

Ansell’s Treatygate was funded by the millionaire Lewis Crimp from Invercargill who has a deep seething hatred of Maori. The Treatygate organisation received $50,000 to preach racial hatred around the country.

The oldest hate group is the One New Zealand Foundation, represented by Martin Doutre (originally from the United States) and the arsonist Allan Titford.  Doutre has two conspiracy theories: firstly,  that the Littlewood Treaty found in Manurewa in 1989  is our founding national doucment, and the original Treaty of Waitangi is a fraud; secondly,  that Anglo Saxons discovered Aotearoa/New Zealand before Polynesian explorers.

doutre  Martin Doutre, ONZF

This vast conspiracy theory doesn’t answer simple questions, such as how boat people from Sri Lanka have never landed on our shores using steel vessels, but a primitive boat could circumnavigate the planet travelling 24,000 km. Celestial navigation was not used in Europe until Columbus’ discovery of America –  1000 years after Polynesians discovered America.

The most dangerous member of One New Zealand Foundation is Allan Titford, who burnt down his own home and blamed the local Iwi, Te Roroa. Titford turned Northland into Mississippi Burning, creating racial division in the country unlike anything since the Land Wars. In fact the then New Zealand Prime Minister, David Lange, sided with Titford. In November 2013, Titford was sentenced to 24 years on a number of charges, including assault, sexual violation, arson and fraud. His former wife revealed that he had deliberately burnt down his home and blamed it on the local Iwi to improve his chances of compensation from the government.

titford  Alan Titford, ONZF

These organisations are well resourced and funded by millionaires, with a publishing company, Tross Publishing. Tross publishes false historical facts, claiming Maoridom  gave away their land and estates to British colonists. and other bombastic claims that colonisation didn’t decimate the Maori race, that hardly anyone suffered and that  in fact colonisation was a saviour.

seatsmuriel Muriel Newman, NZCPR

Muriel Newman’s organisation,  the New Zealand Centre of Political Research (NZCPR) a Anti-Maori hate group disguised as a right wing think tank. Newman, originally an immigrant from England,  is campaigning for the government to abolish the Maori seats. The campaign is gaining momentum and could be successful.

These men and woman are the New Zealand equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan. They are dangerous, and the terrifying part is that hey have strong influence over the National Party. Muriel Newman was a former Act Party MP and John Ansell is a close friend of Don  Brash, who almost became the New Zealand Prime Minister.

sykesmutu These hate groups network well and are well resourced, They market their hatred with precision appealing to Pakeha insecurity. These organisations have no tolerance of Maori culture, language or the Maori seats. They demand New Zealand be the Britain of the South Pacific and Aotearoa be abolished. We can’t continue to ignore these vile hate groups because they are lobbying the New Zealand public to despise Maori. If you oppose these types of groups hijacking the country, the only organisation that opposes them is Mana Movement. Go to our website mana.net.nz and join your local branch.

  • Tiger Mountain

    Well written and researched piece Joe. Plenty of political heft.

    This post colonial country has deep veins of settler denial. The online racism of young people with little knowledge or experience of the Māori world and history has to come from somewhere, and these arseholes are right in the frame.

    In rural areas it is all about land, and I have never forgotten when we moved to the Far North for 20 years. I mention this stuff not to grandstand but to illustrate that in more remote areas the likes of Titford can get mythologized by reactionaries for long periods.

    My young son went to a Guy Fawkes evening late 90s and the “guy” was called Hone! I called that person of course when I found out and he was a gutless type sucking up to the local good ’ol boys. We went on some good campaigns with Ngati Kahu over the years like Mangonui Marina and Crystal Waters and too many ongoing to mention, and it is so great to see Mana involved at Te Oneroa-a-Tōhē and No Mining etc.

    Like the new look here too.

    • gcaisle

      Its not even post colonial, nor a real country. We are still being colonized by the American neoliberal business empire and will have no sovereignty whatsoever.

      • Karangahau Komene

        What do you mean nor a real country? please explain

        • gcaisle

          Aotearoa is my country. New Zealand is colonial fiction.

  • Quentin Tuwhangai

    If these people don’t like it go back to you’re own country who are the first thieves in the world oh it’s the English they stole America from the first nation Indian Africa from the first nation African India from the first nation Indian hong kong from the Chinese. Every where the white race goes the native people suffer for what so you can force us to believe what you believe it don’t work like that your god has corrupted our people brain wash education to keep us separated from each other. You don’t like the fact that we can govern our selves we don’t need you’re negative stereo typing. Maori are bad parents these things are what use brought here no sweet to exploit you’re own children in you’re own country make them clime up chimneys you think you have the answers for everything you can’t fix you’re own country now you what to come here to our country to disrupt our country. I will admitt there are some good white people but they are few and far between. Hate groups no matter what color are bad for the unitty of any country. Kkk go back to America red nex bunch of hicks look what you’ve done to the African bring them to a country you stole make them you’re slaves and now still they have no Seville rights ,I can’t believe how you treat members of you’re society shoot them put alcohol shop’s on every street corner good one make guns accessible to everyone because of a amendment bill to protect them selves against who other Americans great stuff I’ll leave use with this. Look at you’re selves before use look at us

    • Quentin Tuwhangai

      If you think I’m racist well I can’t help that am I part pakeha no I don’t suffer mental health issues well yes anyone would get upset with being told that everything you’re people believed in was wrong the only salvation you have is in someone else god a system that puts money before people governance over you’re land all the while poisoning our native food cutting down our native forest kill all indigenous birds introducing feral animals. These things I’m not responsible for I have to make the best of a bad situation and trying my hardest to endure you label me a racist I don’t label you so I ask you who is the racist me for speaking my mind or you for labeling me a RACIST ???

      • Quentin Tuwhangai

        No it’s the truth if you can’t handle let’s play the percentage game

        • Quentin Tuwhangai

          What about wail oil we are always portrayed in a negative light we can’t go to England and name half the country with Maori names this is the only country we got did you know that

          • HtD

            Maori then were a series of tribes, in perpetual war, taking slaves or slaughtering other tribes. So don’t criticise tribe pakeha for doing a similar thing, but in a gentler manner. FYI York, London, Chester, Manchester and many other English places were named by foreign invaders – Vikings, Romans etc.

          • HtD

            My posts are hitting a nerve with Mana. I can tell, because they are being deleted, Truth hurts, eh? So I’ll stop now. Bye bye x

          • HtD

            So much for free speech.

        • HtD

          Racism is the belief that a particular race is superior or inferior to another, that a person’s social and moral traits are predetermined by his or her inborn biological characteristics.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            So you’re saying it was inbred in to me that only Maori are racist because we are inferior to the European we have only had 250 years experience with European law and order Europeans have had 3000 years experience with European law and order its gonna take awhile for us to catch up. We can’t send our most troubled halfway around the world did you know that.

          • HtD

            No, your post today is racist. That’s what nailed you as a racist. None of us can control what happened before we were born. We were not responsible for it and shouldn’t pay or profit from it.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Yeah well balance has not been addressed we never gave our right of rule to anyone so how come we don’t have our own government

          • HtD

            Mana = Fascism, judging by your censorship, Joe Liar.

          • Kane

            evil does not have a colour. your cheifs gave your grandfather no more than any king or queen gave mine you are blind and hateful

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            My chief and my grandfather gave me a country that you’re king took it from me. You are the one that is blind not me I just try and seek Justice for past indigestion against historical injustice HtD eluded to the fact that his mother land was subject to invasion by the Roman’s and the Vikings. The Roman’s left and so did the Vikings, You would think that people that have been subject to such brutally would have compassion for other nation’s and would not invad their countries but no. Do unto others what others have done unto you. That makes no scents to me it’s not about hate it is how ever about getting it right. The system that governs this country does not work so why I ask you can we not change it. I’m not asking you to leave I’m asking for empathy to the plite of our people and the fact that we are not privileged. Is it a privilege to make up the biggest percentage of incarnation mental health poverty I’m blind and I’m a hater are you sure Kane

          • Kane

            yes im sure thank you for taking the time to write that. but your first sentence is very very very wrong.and yes northern europe was overrun by the romans your quite right so perhaps all us white folk should form a tribunial to lobby for compensation?. but we do not do that because how is constant division any good for any of us?. i know you will deny this next point but you have more in common with an average white supremacist than you do with any maori cheif. i can say with confidence your grandfathers were as opressed and restricted by their cheifs as mine were by their kings. i wish you all the best

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Do you know the difference between a King and a Chief ? One rules by mandate of his god giving him total domination over all things power position and privilege, while the other leads his community to better their lives we have a clear taker for every thing, Ocean, forest, physical and mental health social Justice cultural Justice and no my first sentence was not wrong our ancestors did I deed leave us this country as did your king and your ancestors left you you’re country. My ancestors were not oppressed nor were they restricted by our Chief

          • Kane

            the difference between king and chief is in the spelling. no “country” was left to anyone by anyone a “country” is not real

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            That confirms it then you really are ignorant you have more in common with a white supremacist then me denial is not just a river in Egypt. You can say what you like to justify you’re position you will never convince me any different what is a New Zealander and who said that was the name of this country, just because someone sailed around the world naming everything dose not make him or her right

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            And further more evil does have a color go have a look in the mirror and you will see evil steering back at you

          • Kane

            i dont understand what your trying to say. the truth is the same for all of us i wish you all the best and im really not evil

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            This is a fact the truth weather you whant to admitt it or not it’s still a fact. Blaine king George he gave te pu or the guns to hogi hika to travel though out the land to subdue to in force the treaty of waitangi thoes that signed said treaty, they didn’t know that they signed over right of rule or governance to a king in another country. They were mislead fooled into thinking that the Europeans that lived here at that time would govern themselves and that our tribes would have governance over their own tribesmen. Now since that document was signed we tangatawhenua or to be stereo typed as Maori have endeavored to hold every government accountable to that document some people would other wise have you believe that this document should be cast aside forgotten, and yet some of the laws that were written at that time still exist. If anyone thinks that the treaty should be abolished then my friend so should the laws that govern this land

          • Kane

            i have absolutely no idea why you are talking about any of that. you have started and finished an arguement in your own head and i have been left out lol i never said anything about anything you just mentioned.i dont want a king or a chief. that treaty was signed by strangers to you and i and they did not sign for either of our benefits

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            I don’t want a red neck PM just like you don’t want a King or a Chief we will have to agree with this nether of us are going to get wot we want as for my last post it has everything to do with the content on this site

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            And wot is a stranger to you is an ancestor to me weather I personal know him or not

          • Kane

            your so blinded by your racial prejudice its virtually impossible to have any type of logical reasoned discussion with you i cant make any sense whatsoever of what your saying. king/cheif/prime minister/emperor/tsar whatever its all the same im sorry that you obviously need other people to think for you so you can regurgitate the same crap EVERY power structure mankind has ever known used to divide and conquer. you and i are goyim my friend and your racism is making you lose sight of the MUCH bigger picture here you play right into thier hands

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Then tell me Kane what is the bigger picture I haven’t said anything declamatory or racist towards you’re last comment what is the MUCH bigger picture

          • Kane

            we will start with the fact that 70 percent of our countrymen didnt vote for the current “leader” yet we are all so divided that he didnt need it. why are we divided? what issues cause it? who profits from it?.

            social engineering is our oldest form of engineering and it has evolved just as much over time as its physical counterpart.

            whilst groups like mana may beleive they are doing the best for people they are really just a cog in a centuries old machine. il say it again the truth is the same for all of us.

            And also just like everything else man has created words are a tool and just like every tool man has created they were/are a weapon before they are anything else

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Let me start by saying I agree with what you say, why are we divided Because the ruling elect don’t want us to present a united front. Social racial and religious believef who profits those that control power and money. How would you sergest we address it

          • Kane

            we withdraw our consent and reduce dependence on their “system” grow your own food start learning/teaching trades not just for profit and everyone STOP encouraging women to work as if it is some kind of right of passage as if men wanted to be enslaved for the last 10000 years this just gives more power to the corrupt system and leaves your children in their hand. get sex and violence out of schools and start teaching politics for frick sakes todays rulers are getting away with things our great great great grandparents would of been slicing and shooting at by now.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Let me start by saying you make some good points I wish we could shear photo’s I have a garden that is More than a Acher I with my two son’s built three house’s I’m a lover of hunting fishing and diving. We have our own stock cow’s sheep pigs goat’s chickens ducks turkeys. I operate my own business my self and my wife educated our children and now take an active role in the education of our grandchildren it dose sadden me to see the plite of our country and what it’s turning in to. So how can we start our own think tank to try an address these problems ? Where to from here? For you and me

          • Kane

            you are your own sovereign thats how we all need to be. my think tank is the internet for now, i listen to everyone and following noone but iv got my own life problems to sort out before i save the world

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            I hope that you are able to sort out your life problem’s. I do think that all life is important I do believe in good will to all mankind. I do hope that the value of humanity will hold some substance that we are able to live in some from of harmony in accordance with populist belief. I do think you make and have valid points of interest I like you am not evil I like you am racist I like you am important if only to my family and friends and last but least do wish you all best and I would like to apologize we got off on the wrong foot Maori have a word for situations like this the word is Arohanui my friend

          • Tarris

            You educated your children? Good god, you can hardly spell!

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            No one thinks for me if I agree with something I agree if I don’t agree I don’t agree it you that need people to think for you you don’t even know the history of our country

          • Kane

            “you dont even know the history of our country” umm what? again you are starting and finishing arguements in your own head without including anyone you are a “mind-midget”

          • Tarris

            Again I see you dribble on a bout ‘tangata whenua’ status. And again I inform you that according to Maori custom, any people who have occupied a land for 3generations are considered tangata whenua!

          • Hugh Robb

            But you took nearly 100 years of compensation from Germany.

          • Kane

            i took nothing,international bankers formented and profited from that war and the 1 before it and many before that, but i still dont see what that has to do with rome conquering northern europe.

            would those wars + the napoleonic wars etc have happened without the events 2000 years earlier ie roman imperialism,political gimmicks etc?

          • Hugh Robb

            It doesn’t.
            It has to do with Britain taking compensation from Germany while denying any responsibility to compensate for its own atrocities.
            There’s a lot of very very wealthy brits (David Cameron) who inherited their wealth from slave trading ancestors.
            The tate sugar family should be building schools universities hospitals etc in Jamaica before running art galleries with billions of pounds of art in london.

          • Kane

            i agree with your comment

          • Tarris

            ‘Right of rule’? First article, second sentence of the ToW. Sovereignty is completely ceded to the queen of England! I suggest you read the treaty before you attempt to comment on it.

        • Karl Teariki

          what destroys ‘truth’ is facts 🙂
          Some people can’t handle the facts so the create their own imaginary facts.

          • owenthomson

            Like the imaginary facts of the Maori.. You are lucky the British beat the French.
            The legal system you have that allows you your freedoms would not exist under French colonial laws!

          • Massey Toi

            Whats wrong with Canada and Taihiti? Whats wrong with America and Britain. The former don’t start wars.

        • Tarris

          No racism?!! There was rampant tribalism and war, constant utu and warring over limited resources. How is the ngati tama/mutunga genocide of moriori not tribalism/racism in the extreme?!!!

      • John Ansell

        Quentin, are you really making the best of a bad situation – or the worst of a good situation?

      • Peter Large

        How was all this alleged stuff taken off YOU? Are you 180 years old? Victim!

    • Peter Large

      Man, you are a total victim! You can choose something different you know? Good luck!

    • Tarris

      Fool! ‘Go back to my country’!!? Your ancestors ceded all sovereignty to my people about 8 generations ago in exchange for protection. We have ‘walked the land’, as you say. Maori custom says that after 3 generations occupies are ‘tanagata whenua’, so my country is where? Maybe you, as a vanquished and subjugated people, should go back to Taiwan!

    • Tarris

      My people, having been here more than 3 generations, are now the tangata whenua according to Maori custom. This is my land! Maybe you should go back to Taiwan!

    • Phil S Stein

      not all white people are english, have you no idea of the history of ireland or scotland?

      get off your high horse

  • Lou

    86% of the population of this Country is NON MAORI. Its not exactly a landslide victory is it?

  • John Ansell

    I invite any reader to watch this debate between Joe Trinder and me and decide who is the racist: http://mananews.co.nz/wp/?p=977

  • Karl Teariki

    I would love to see these people (Māori haters) submit themselves to MRI brain scans / tractography that can be analysed and perhaps find a neurological reason for what is wrong with them.

    • Karl Teariki

      I got a reply that was deleted here it is…

      John Ansell

      I will if you will, Karl. (You can pay for it out of your Treaty settlement.)

      …..

      Please don’t delete their comments… let them stand so that their (hopefully) more enlightened descendants can witness how much more educated and aware of facts they are compared to their ancestors.

      in reply to John…

      I’m not getting a cent John… Ths shows how much you understand…

      Much of the money goes to feeding the settlement system created by your government, the rest goes to the tribe that will be used (ultimately) for the benefit of all who live in our rohe, through investment, business iniatives and social and health programmes and contribute to the economy of the region.

      Besides, I don’t want the money, I would rather see the farm returned that was confiscated from my great great great grandfather that is now on the market for 30 million dollars.

      I would rather see the 200+ hectares confiscated in the 1800’s from my great great grandmothers family returned. It was taken to build a railway, to this day there is no railway.

      I would rather see the land confiscated from my grandmothers family returned.

      Why is that so hard for you to understand? Perhaps the brain scan will explain it better.

  • Quentin Tuwhangai

    You a red neck go back to your country

    • HtD

      You (sic) a racist. Go back to school.

  • Not only have Maori been invaded , disrespected and let down , our damn culture is being torn apart enough as it is ! People going on about how everyone needs to respect each other , why the fuck is colour & race become more than what it should be ? Hate groups ? Really ?

    ” New Zealanders who were members of an Iwi were no longer “Kiwi”. ”

    ” The Treatygate organisation received $50,000 to preach racial hatred around the country. ”

    ” The most dangerous member of One New Zealand Foundation is Allan Titford, who burnt down his own home and blamed the local Iwi, Te Roroa . ”

    ” The oldest hate group is the One New Zealand Foundation, represented by Martin Doutre (originally from the United States) and the arsonist Allan Titford. ”

    ” These organisations have no tolerance of Maori culture, language or the Maori seats. They demand New Zealand be the Britain of the South Pacific and Aotearoa be abolished. ”

    I had pulled 5 bits and pieces out , why ? You read every single line and you tell me what comes to your head ? Do you not understand ? Let me help you , think outside the box .

    Gangs , EVERYBODY is either related to a gang member , apart of a gang and / or work for a gang.

    Culture , based on your color , the way you look , the sound of your voice & language .

    Understanding , will you hear what i have to say or will your ego and belief get in the way ?

    Power , representing a town , city , country and / or organization the power is in your hand and you call the shot .

    Protection , you will do what it takes to protect the ones you love and / or protect someone you know is in harms way.

    G.C.U.double P – GCUPP

    Maori and Polynesian are nothing but criminals , wannabe gangs trying to puppet America life style , true or not true ? What does this have to do with anything about the article above ? it has absolutely EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT ! John Key , John Ansell , Martin Doutre , etc etc are all gang members , you dont need vest’s with patch’s saw’n on your back , 1% saw’n in the front , guns & knives , a criminal history , street credit and so on and so on , to be a gang member . No ! All these politicians are as dirty as gang member’s ! What hits the headlines more these days ? Police and shit to do with the Government is what you hear and read more now yes? And its not good ! What these people are doing is taking on a wrong approach on ethnicity , kids are bullied every day , adults at that , but these cowards have hate groups in a country they claim is theirs ? What else do you want from Maori ? Yourv taken so much from us all Maori is gonna be left with is a name , thats all ! I grew up in different schools , all which i had joined Kapa Haka with , Bi-lingual classes , everybody was somebody but together we were the future , now-a-days what even is Maori ? Are we the blame of everything negative ? Will Maori live through out the years to see better days , or will fuckheads like John Key and the rest vanish our belief , our culture and let us drift into the wind ? If you ask me those cunts are worser than gangs them selves .

    • John Ansell

      I think we’re getting a pretty good idea of who the real racists are now.

    • Kane

      if you want to better understand the needless divisions and laws amongst our society learn european history back to jesus, then learn judaism, then take a look at the religious/ethnic affiliation of every western political leader and media boss……its not all “black and white” if you know what i mean;)

      • jesus and all that bullshit isnt even real …………. -,-

        • Kane

          if you had the capacity to read and compute the information your reading yo would realize that i never incinuated he was but good on for completely ignoring the entire comment and seeing only what you want to see

  • Quentin Tuwhangai

    In fact these groups make a lot of valid points is RACIST to

  • Quentin Tuwhangai

    Please don’t deleted HtDs comments please I got an answer for every comment

    • John Ansell

      Seems only illiterate comments are allowed in this echo-chamber. Why are the Left so terrified of being challenged. Didn’t think it was the Maori way.

      • Muzza

        You post heaps for someone who types with one hand.

        • John Ansell

          Any reasonable debater can beat Joe one-handed.

  • John Ansell

    I’ll just have to expose your cowardice elsewhere, Joe. And you think you’ve got mana.

  • John Ansell
    • HtD

      Haha, they really are on the back foot.

  • Muzza

    It was pretty disgusting that Lange supported Titford, but he also supported Tasman against the mill workers. As a middle class lawyer, he was not a trusted ally. Anyone who had the privilege to know any of the Te Roroa people knew immediately that Titford was a lying racist POS.

  • Muzza

    No they don’t. They’re the garbage of humanity, scared of anything different from themselves. They’re so obviously inferior in every way that the only way they can feel good is by attacking another culture. Joe’s article is factual and reserved.

    • John Ansell

      Joe is too gutless to allow me the right of reply. Mana? I don’t think so.

  • thesilentmajority

    Since you deleted John’s very rational rebuttal, I will re post it here.

    “Joe, it’s tiresome correcting all your flat-out lies, but here we go again:

    1. I do not hate Maori. I admire Achiever Maori who succeed under their own steam without falsifying history to demand other people’s money. What I hate is dishonesty. But hey, even if I was the Grand Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, that wouldn’t matter. The only thing that matters is whether I’m telling the truth.

    2. The Iwi/Kiwi billboard simply asserted that Labour were biased toward Maori, while Brash National believed in equality for all New Zealanders, including Maori. Since the word Iwi fits into the word Kiwi, it’s the perfect expression of inclusiveness. To suggest the opposite just makes you look silly.

    3. I can assure you Ansell’s relationship with National has not been strong since I walked out on John Key in 2007. They most certainly did not hire me to do that anti-Green campaign. Key denied it on National Radio with the words “John Ansell hates me.” Actually I don’t – I think he’s a nice guy, a world class politician, and a poor leader.

    4. You say “Treatygate claims that if an Iwi receives a settlement from brutal land confiscations, that makes them a corporation”. I challenge you to show me where I said anything of the kind. Some iwi are corporations, but I can’t see how a settlement would make them one. Your logic is feeble.

    5. “Ansell is convinced that British racial superiority exists”. That is clearly meant to suggest that I think a British person is inherently superior to a Maori person simply by birth. That is not what I think. In fact, that’s libellous. Prove I said that or apologise.

    6. Show me where I said colonisation was “delightful”.

    7. You’re right that I certainly did say Maori (or rather Griever Maori like yourself) lack gratitude. Colonisation, while hardly “delightful”, nevertheless gave you everything you possess and take for granted today, and yet all we hear is your moaning.

    8. The question, “Fed up with the Maorification of everything?” has received a resounding “Yes!” if 12 polls about various aspects of racial favouritism are any guide. Every time a question is posed like, “Are Maori special?” or “Do you want Maori wards?” or “Do you want to put the H back in Wanganui?”, the result is always the same: 80% of NZers opposed. So your problem is much bigger than just reckless old me.

    The dysfunction in Maoridom is fundamentally an ethical problem of poor leadership. The majority of good, honest Maori are drowned out by a violent underclass and a loud, dishonest minority of so-called leaders like you.

    The problem will not be solved by stirrers from the other side of the fence like me.

    It will only be solved by a strong, honest, Ngata or Buck-like figure rising on a marae and saying “Enough of you liars! Enough of you pretenders!

    “Enough of you history-twisters and moneygrubbers!

    “Enough of you corrupt so-called leaders pocketing all the cash and leaving none for the ordinary people!

    “When are we going to face the facts? When are we going to drop the excuses? When are we going to say ‘violence is not OK’, like the ad says?

    “When are we going to follow the words of Sir Peter Buck who said ‘Maori can do anything the Pakeha can do, but we must do it together’?”

    Your people don’t need chronic liars like you, Joe. They need to Bring Back Buck.

  • John Ansell

    Every time you delete this, we’re going to reblog it in tripicate. Here’s number three:

    Joe, it’s tiresome correcting all your flat-out lies, but here we go again:

    1. I do not hate Maori. I admire Achiever Maori who succeed under their own steam without falsifying history to demand other people’s money. What I hate is dishonesty. But hey, even if I was the Grand Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, that wouldn’t matter. The only thing that matters is whether I’m telling the truth.

    2. The Iwi/Kiwi billboard simply asserted that Labour were biased toward Maori, while Brash National believed in equality for all New Zealanders, including Maori. Since the word Iwi fits into the word Kiwi, it’s the perfect expression of inclusiveness. To suggest the opposite just makes you look silly.

    3. I can assure you Ansell’s relationship with National has not been strong since I walked out on John Key in 2007. They most certainly did not hire me to do that anti-Green campaign. Key denied it on National Radio with the words “John Ansell hates me.” Actually I don’t – I think he’s a nice guy, a world class politician, and a poor leader.

    4. You say “Treatygate claims that if an Iwi receives a settlement from brutal land confiscations, that makes them a corporation”. I challenge you to show me where I said anything of the kind. Some iwi are corporations, but I can’t see how a settlement would make them one. Your logic is feeble.

    5. “Ansell is convinced that British racial superiority exists”. That is clearly meant to suggest that I think a British person is inherently superior to a Maori person simply by birth. That is not what I think. In fact, that’s libellous. Prove I said that or apologise.

    6. Show me where I said colonisation was “delightful”.

    7. You’re right that I certainly did say Maori (or rather Griever Maori like yourself) lack gratitude. Colonisation, while hardly “delightful”, nevertheless gave you everything you possess and take for granted today, and yet all we hear is your moaning.

    8. The question, “Fed up with the Maorification of everything?” has received a resounding “Yes!” if 12 polls about various aspects of racial favouritism are any guide. Every time a question is posed like, “Are Maori special?” or “Do you want Maori wards?” or “Do you want to put the H back in Wanganui?”, the result is always the same: 80% of NZers opposed. So your problem is much bigger than just reckless old me.

    The dysfunction in Maoridom is fundamentally an ethical problem of poor leadership. The majority of good, honest Maori are drowned out by a violent underclass and a loud, dishonest minority of so-called leaders like you.

    The problem will not be solved by stirrers from the other side of the fence like me.

    It will only be solved by a strong, honest, Ngata or Buck-like figure rising on a marae and saying “Enough of you liars! Enough of you pretenders!

    “Enough of you history-twisters and moneygrubbers!

    “Enough of you corrupt so-called leaders pocketing all the cash and leaving none for the ordinary people!

    “When are we going to face the facts? When are we going to drop the excuses? When are we going to say ‘violence is not OK’, like the ad says?

    “When are we going to follow the words of Sir Peter Buck who said ‘Maori can do anything the Pakeha can do, but we must do it together’?”

    Your people don’t need chronic liars like you, Joe. They need to Bring Back Buck.

  • Muzza

    You should just block the racists. I see no reason for Mana to give white supremacist trolls a platform.

    • Kane

      block the racists on mananews? there would be no comment section lol

  • Adam

    if you are still looking john ansell this post is for you…….

    i visited your site just now. read the article about the trainee teacher. it was disgusting. both of you wrote garbage, verging on hate speech.

    here is a list of words you used to describe maori aspirations to have their language and customs valued and taught in nz schools:

    brainwashing, propaganda, primitive, pagan, inquisitional, sinister, totalitarian, woofterism, grotesque, communist, rage, savages, barbarity.

    why do you have to spit venom whenever you talk about my culture? why the doom and gloom language?

    you say….

    “How is it that in a civilised country where
    violence is “not OK”, it is OK to stage contests forcing boys to rage like savages in the name of “culture”?”

    can you speak fluent maori? are you qualified enough in maori haka to know what the actions, words, tempo, rhythms and type of haka mean? no, you are not. that’s plain to see when you describe it as savage rage. thats not even close to the truth. if you understood the content and meaning of particular haka, you’d have never made that comment, ever. how can you label something savage, when you don’t understand the lyrics and actions? you can’t.

    you also say,

    “Of course much of te reo Maoriis simply Maorified English.”

    that too is absolute garbage. again i ask you, can you speak maori? can you read and write maori? what qualifies you to comment on a language that you can’t even understand? that’s ridiculous. you have shown it’s YOUR ignorance at fault here, not maori language, customs and traditions.

    i’m glad your teacher trainee left the country. we don’t need losers like that here in new zealand. you need to bugger off next too….. all decent pakeha and maori new zealanders have great mutual respect for each others culture….. you two don’t….

    kiaora

    • Doloras LaPicho

      What’s “woofterism”?

  • Ips

    Racism stepped on Aotearoa shores in the 1800s and the mongrels haven’t returned to Britain…our tupuna made one huge mistake, they omplained that pakeha with puha was too salty….hahaha

    • HtD

      lps, you’re a hateful deluded racist. Mongrels is normally a hate word for mixed race people like yourself.

  • Ips

    well done Joe for bringing our attention to the scourge of society, the concerning issue is their close relationship with the national party who are doing their best to mainstream Maori as another form of assimilation.

  • Ips

    Keep digging up the dirt on them Joe and please get it out to facebook

  • Peter Large

    Joe, it’s tiresome correcting all your flat-out lies, but here we go again:
    1.
    I do not hate Maori. I admire Achiever Maori who succeed under their
    own steam without falsifying history to demand other people’s money.
    What I hate is dishonesty. But hey, even if I was the Grand Imperial
    Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, that wouldn’t matter. The only thing that
    matters is whether I’m telling the truth.
    2. The Iwi/Kiwi
    billboard simply asserted that Labour were biased toward Maori, while
    Brash National believed in equality for all New Zealanders, including
    Maori. Since the word Iwi fits into the word Kiwi, it’s the perfect
    expression of inclusiveness. To suggest the opposite just makes you look
    silly.
    3. I can assure you Ansell’s relationship with National
    has not been strong since I walked out on John Key in 2007. They most
    certainly did not hire me to do that anti-Green campaign. Key denied it
    on National Radio with the words “John Ansell hates me.” Actually I
    don’t – I think he’s a nice guy, a world class politician, and a poor
    leader.
    4. You say “Treatygate claims that if an Iwi receives a
    settlement from brutal land confiscations, that makes them a
    corporation”. I challenge you to show me where I said anything of the
    kind. Some iwi are corporations, but I can’t see how a settlement would
    make them one. Your logic is feeble.
    5. “Ansell is convinced that
    British racial superiority exists”. That is clearly meant to suggest
    that I think a British person is inherently superior to a Maori person
    simply by birth. That is not what I think. In fact, that’s libellous.
    Prove I said that or apologise.
    6. Show me where I said colonisation was “delightful”.
    7.
    You’re right that I certainly did say Maori (or rather Griever Maori
    like yourself) lack gratitude. Colonisation, while hardly “delightful”,
    nevertheless gave you everything you possess and take for granted today,
    and yet all we hear is your moaning.
    8. The question, “Fed up
    with the Maorification of everything?” has received a resounding “Yes!”
    if 12 polls about various aspects of racial favouritism are any guide.
    Every time a question is posed like, “Are Maori special?” or “Do you
    want Maori wards?” or “Do you want to put the H back in Wanganui?”, the
    result is always the same: 80% of NZers opposed. So your problem is much
    bigger than just reckless old me.
    The dysfunction in Maoridom is
    fundamentally an ethical problem of poor leadership. The majority of
    good, honest Maori are drowned out by a violent underclass and a loud,
    dishonest minority of so-called leaders like you.
    The problem will not be solved by stirrers from the other side of the fence like me.
    It
    will only be solved by a strong, honest, Ngata or Buck-like figure
    rising on a marae and saying “Enough of you liars! Enough of you
    pretenders! Enough of you history-twisters and moneygrubbers! Enough of
    you corrupt so-called leaders pocketing all the cash and leaving none
    for the ordinary people! When are we going to face the facts? When are
    we going to drop the excuses? When are we going to say violence is not
    OK, like the ad says? When are we going to follow the words of Sir Peter
    Buck who said “Maori can do anything the Pakeha can do, but we must do
    it together”?
    Your people don’t need chronic liars like you, Joe. They need to Bring Back Buck.

    John Ansell

  • Ips

    H&D says I’m racist regarding my comments, I’m fine with that, he wears it or he could go back to whence he came and take his imperialistic worldview to dominate his own.

  • Andrew_Nichols

    Doutre? Nah – Douche!

  • I have long been interested in the weird people who say the Celtics, and Anglo-Saxons got to Aotearoa first. Without any evidence they grasp at any piece of rock, dent in the ground or cave drawing to “prove” their nonsense. They will have no trouble finding like weirds to believe them. It amazes me however that they have links to National although during the Brash era of that party and the Iwi-Kiwi crap anything fascist and racist was possible. The irony of this slogan is that both words Iwi and Kiwi are Maori. Take the iwi out of kiwi and you are left with K…for what? It seems that these Maori hate groups have no sense of humour.

    • nicholas toa

      It is of mo relevance who was here first, the relevance is the treaty of Waitangi which made us all one people under one law, cant any of you see that fundamental fact….therefore if you take a persons land and breach that law it is a crime. Before the signing of the treaty it was not a crime as Maori “lore” applied which said to the victor goes the spoils.

      • It does matter to anti-Maori hate groups whose one real hate is that they weren’t here first. If only the Treaty of Waitangi (the signed Maori version) made us all one people under one law. We would not have lost 66m acres for a start. This major breach in the law did not jail any of the thieves.There’s no one law in our British system which disperses justice according to wealth power race and class. More’s the pity that “one law” is a myth. Maori land was lost because to the victor went the spoils under British “lore”.

        • Quentin Tuwhangai

          The treaty’s birth was war not a Democratic process I know for my self Tuhoe signed on such treaty so someone else can have a say for them ? And kaupapa who only interest was to eat the scrapes left on the ground by the English ? Spoiles of war this is a fair concept ? Te tiriti had no interest in the thought for one law for all people in Aotearoha it in fact was srpost to law for them and lore for us. That was what Nga rangatira o te ropu Waitangi believed

          • nicholas toa

            Its was recently found by the Waitangi tribunal that even the signees didn’t concede sovereignty over either so that just opened up a huge can of worms for future dialouge on this subject the crown is ruling over Maori as an illegal occupier of our sovereignty?????

        • nicholas toa

          To the victor goes the spoils you say? Are you deaf dumb and illiterate?….it was theft not war…the land was confiscated illegally, that’s what white people call it when they are guilty of theft, it happened after we became nz, from 1865 to 2004. We became nz in 1840, you’re saying Maori don’t live under the same law as a white person were all nzers aren’t we? That means we all live under the protection of the law. The Waitangi Tribunal is a white supremacist concept because it denys Maori a court hearing it has no legal power it is an advisory panel, we should create a pakeha tribunal so all pakeha crime victims get watered down justice to.

          • Actually I’m quite literate and your epithets about me make me wander whether you are. I know my history thank you and how we lost our whenua. I was referring to the incoming Pommes as the victors in the land grab which is what colonisation was all about. I think we are on the same page except that I don’t see the Waitangi Tribunal as you do. But for this tribunal many Treaty breeches would not have seen the light of day.They can make binding recommendations when warranted. Many claimants wont be totally satisfied and in any case we are never going to get back 66m acres because there isn’t “one law for all.”

          • nicholas toa

            Apologies for the insults Atihana, I was disagreeing with your statement that it was an act of war, it was theft if you take into account that it happened after 1840 if it happened before 1840 it would have been a conquest, we were all assumed to be nzers at the time so conquest and theft are two different things aren’t they? About a month ago the Waitangi Tribunal found that the treaty did not concede Maori sovereignty to the crown so that makes things very interesting also Maori should be in court if it was theft not at a tribunal…I think the Waitangi Tribunal is a racist construct created to deny Maori the same justice all other NZers have access to.and the bigots this article is about campaign for one law for all NZers….I actually agree on that point start by putting stolen Maori land cases through court that’s when full compensation will be given and theft convictions and recieving stolen property convictions given out.

          • Apology accepted. It wasn’t an act of war until the land wars initiated by the coloniser. The bulk of the land was lost through this so-called “one law for all” which describes the power imbalance once we were out populated and the economy of Aotearoa which was quite substantial and Maori was taken away by law and a trade imbalance. Up until about 1855 Imports and exports were the result of Maori initiative. Empires like Britain had an Imperial Precursor. Take the land and the power is theirs. That is why the Treaty became a “nulity” according to one Judge. Given this background it’s almost a miracle that Matiu Rata managed to get the first Waitangi Tribunal through parliament in 1975 and then it was extended in 1985 to hear claims back to 1840. The reality is that the power imbalance does not allow for full redress. Lucky if we get back 2% of what was lost. Democracy is not only one person one vote, it is the tyranny of the majority over the minority.

          • nicholas toa

            So if the Waitangi tribunal has just made the decision that Maori didn’t give away our sovereignty, does that mean we are not bound to be governed over by the NZ Government. In other words the crown has no jurisdiction over us?

  • Paul Janman

    Mana movement isn’t the only one opposing them. We’ve been making a movie to expose these guys for a while now. And we’re a bunch of Pakehas! http://anti-travel.net/?page_id=334

  • nicholas toa

    These people cant understand that our land was confiscated illegally because it happened when we were all nzers….not before as they imply. It wasn’t a conquest in a New Zealand context it was a coquest in a racial context, therefore it was Immoral like them as they fully believe in race based conquests…..so they truly are…evil.

  • Andy

    I’d be happy to go back to the country where I was born. Anything is better than the racist shithole that is NZ

    • Quentin Tuwhangai

      Every country has elements of racism in it. Name one country that has no racist people in it. And further more if their is no racism where you’re from which country are you from??? As for NZ you’re right it is a shithole as for Aotearoha beautiful country so if that is your opinion don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out see you

      • Andy

        Why are you interested in where I am from? Who cares where I am from? I am not interested in your sad and pathetic life and I don’t expect you to be interested in mine.

        Have a nice day

        • Quentin Tuwhangai

          You posted you’re opinion what is you’re point? Sad and pathetic is gutless wonders like you so ready to comment not willing to take criticism. You want to go back to the country from which you were born shut you’re mouth keep you’re opinions to you’re self and go home and don’t have a nice day you condescending prick racist red neck

          • Andy

            I love it! A stream of racist hatred from someone accusing me of the same.
            How delightful

            By the way, how are things in Mana? Are you still getting money from the fat German? The one who pays his Phillipino staff half the minimum wage and expects them to call him “Sir”? The one who has a signed copy of Mein Kampf and a collection of Nazi memorabilia?

            I’m sure the fat German is a good fit for the Mana National Socialist League of Mouth Foamers

            Eh Quentin? Give me some more of that Maori love dude!

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Whose a fat German John Key eh Andy you think you’re any better you are a joke haha you the one that doesn’t like this country I was simply say if you don’t like it leave what about you’re white love is it any better no Kim.com has more compassion for this country then you .do you have ereputable proof that is based on fact that this is indeed wot he did?? This has overtones of defamation of caricature buddy Mine Kamph is probably something you read at night before you go to sleep by the sound of things dude

          • Andy

            John Key is not a fat German. He is a Jew of moderate build.

            Probably someone you and your racist friends would like to send to the camps.

            Then you would get your lebensraum for you and your ubermenschen. The chosen people from the Wakas

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Here’s the thing you islraly simpathizer you and you’re racist mate’s see nothing wrong with you’re territories views eh Andy nothing you say will change the fact you’re a racist this country was formed by two peoples the English and the Maori it got nothing to do with the fact that you’re an outsider go back to you’re own country and think about it, and when you become more enlightened and the dimly glowing light bulb in you’re head starts to glowa lot brighter in regards to the politics of this country then I invite you back Dude

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            PS you don’t have to come back on a waka for me to accept you cool you can fly

          • Andy

            Have a nice day

          • Andy

            Your history seems a little short on facts. I don’t recall that NZ was formed by the “English” and the Maori.

            The colonisers were a group of westerners that comprised Dutch, Scottish, Irish, Welsh and English.

            There were also some early Chinese settlers who were involved with the Gold Rush

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            First and for most thank you Andy. Let me tell you the Dutch were here before the English the northern tribes traded with the Dutch as wailers Maori had trade vessels that they navagated around the globe for trade not to invade but to trade, secondly the Scottish, Irish,Welsh and the English make up what is called great Britain which first you check you’re history is controlled by WHO the English as for the Chinese they came over later. I told you go home get you’re faces right and I’ll wait for you at the airport have a Powhiti for you and formally welcome you to our country you dig it Dude as you can clearly see my facts are longer then you’re short sightedness don’t quite know WHOSE ass you pulled you’re facts out of probably John Key’s cause they covered in shit

          • Andy

            I like how you start with a “thank you” then end with “covered in shit”.

            Such delightful manners

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            My manners now being brought into question you were the one who said my facts are wrong then I put them into context prove you’re facts are wrong and all of a sudden it’s my manners that have you beat you my friend are seriously in need of New Zealand history education buddy because you suffer from imagery facts

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            I’m right though and you can’t handle that fact eh Andy it about manners now go home think about it come back I’ll wait for you

          • Andy

            You are right. I have examined the shit coming out of my arse as you suggested and all the facts that you present are there in all their brown and smelly glory

            Would you like a taste?

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Oh yes please red neck undercover Klansman yes please do you want me to Private message my address to you so you can bring it around eh Andy ???????

          • nicholas toa

            New Zealand was formed by the English it was a treaty between Maori and the queen of England….its common knowledge.

          • Andy

            So the Scots and Welsh were not in on the act?

            Is this common knowledge?

            Maybe as a UK resident I have some more knowledge of the subject of UK than the cretins that inhabit this site?

          • nicholas toa

            I think you need to read the treaty of Waitangi because its obvious you havnt. Until then your speaking from a point of ignorance.

          • nicholas toa

            We only want justice, the nz government confiscated our land illegally, they have admitted to it, that’s all they made it a race issue not us we were all nzers when it happened so therefore it was illegal.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Ae tautoko e hoa ma

          • nicholas toa

            These idiots fill there tank up with illogical nonsense then claim they have all the facts, like the bigoted racist zealots this article is about. Its not about race its about justice…race is irrelevant we Maori help there cause by falling into the race argument.

          • nicholas toa

            Cretins????? Your ignorant. You havnt even done your research.

          • Andy

            When I use the term “cretin” I refer to those that have difficulty constructing a grammatically correct English sentence

            Feel free to use a language you are more comfortable with

          • nicholas toa

            What’s dumber…forgetting to use spell check or debating with no knowledge of the subject?

          • nicholas toa

            Edited for your sakes….now its just your ignorance to address?????

          • nicholas toa

            Hahaha…you don’t even know who the king and queen of England is? That’s our treaty partner, Scotland was conquered we Maori weren’t we signed a treaty with your king and that treaty is still relevant today…wise up and do your research before turning up unarmed to a battle of facts

          • Andy

            There isn’t a King of England. The current Queen Elizabeth 2 is the head of state of the United Kingdom of Great Briitain and Northern Ireland

            Also of NZ, Australia, and various other places.

          • nicholas toa

            And she is now our treaty partner by her birthright, again I say do your research before entering a debate clue less.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            This guy Andy is thicker then two six by sixes stuck together my bro his arse go owned earlyer

          • Andy

            Thanks, but at least I can construct a grammatically correct English sentence.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Good on you Andy now construct a grammatically correct sentence in the native language of this country ???

          • Andy

            Obviously I am conversing in the language in this thread. If you wish to use either Te Reo or sign language instead, that is your choice.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            And further more because I haven’t heard from you in a couple of day’s I thought you took my advice and went home to you’re country boy how wrong was I

          • Andy

            Sorry to disappoint but this white nigga is sticking around for a bit to sully your country with my genetically inferior DNA

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            While apologising is the correct thing to do. Don’t you mean white power other wise you would know that white folk that ethnic or dark skinned folk as friends are called a wigga not wiggers as this is anatomical in correct. Inferiority is what you claimed we are by way of genetical DNA not I buddy not I. And further more every man or woman was born equal, equality is a committee we all own in the eye’s of god and in the natural lore not law of mankind

          • nicholas toa

            Your own opinion of yourself Andy ….”white nigga with inferior dna”

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            You’re brain capacity is what makes you inferior never hear of a white nigga before you can’t handle the fact that you’re thick eh Andy you have to post imagery fact write thing that I most certainly did not write trying to make me lose my temper so I would use profanities that made me look ignorant and inferior by way of education and skin color and genetics DID NOT WORK

            So I bid you a due

          • Liam Catton

            Oh, but you’re not Pakeha apparently?

          • Andy

            Does me being white make me a Pakeha? I don’t even know what the fucking word means. I don’t come from NZ

          • Liam Catton

            If you don’t understand the basic term for white people in New Zealand, why are you commenting on our affairs?

          • Andy

            “Our affairs”. So what makes these “your” affairs? Did your ancestors evolve in NZ, or walk here, like some have claimed on this thread

          • Liam Catton

            I didn’t say anything like that wtf? They’re New Zealand affairs and we’re Maori. So yeah, they’re our affairs.

          • Andy

            You are not Maori. You are half maori. You just said that yourself

          • Liam Catton

            I’m not going to respond to this one lmao, you’re just baiting.

          • Liam Catton

            Maori have been living in New Zealand for over a thousand years at least so it would be stupid to think they hadn’t adapted or evolved at all in this country. Pakeha, not so much.

          • Andy

            Are Chinese people “pakeha”. Are Jewish people “pakeha”? Are pakistanis Pakeha?

            Do these people have any rights in NZ?

          • Liam Catton

            For one, no they’re not Pakeha. Secondly, were they the indigenous people of New Zealand? Were they brutally colonised here by the Brits?

          • Liam Catton

            English is only a de facto official language. It’s only there because white people said so. Maori and NZSL are the native languages.

          • Andy

            As it happens I am aware of that. That is why I mentioned NZSL

          • Andy

            By the way, Liam, are you a white motherfucker? Just interested

          • Liam Catton

            I’m biracial, Kai Tahu Maori and NZ European.

          • Andy

            So you are a mongrel then. A half bred.
            Figures

          • Liam Catton

            Haha there we go. I knew the real Andy would come out. Pakeha trash. Still on that same mentality as your redcoat ancestors. I’m as Maori as anybody. When I fill the census, I don’t scribble out ‘Maori’ and write next to it “Sorta um kinda but also not quite :/” there are no full-blooded Maori left in New Zealand.

          • Andy

            Thanks for your racist remark. You will fit in well with Hone “Whitemotherfucker” Harawira who doesn’t like his daughter dating white people.

            I am of mixed European race, I am not a fucking “pakeha” I am of mixed German and British descent.

            I could bleat on about “my” people in Germany or Prussia or England or Scotland. But according to you, I am fucking Pakeha Trash

            Go and play with the racist and antisemitic vermin that hang around here, you fucking piece of racist shit

          • Liam Catton

            My mother is a pale Maori as well and during her days as a social worker, she often worked with Hone. They got on really well.

            You’ll get on well with the people who want Pakeha etched out of political correctness because they claim it means ‘white pig’ (poaka ma) or ‘white rat’ (kiore ma) in Maori. Pakeha just means white person who identifies with white European heritage. It’s use is similar to the use of ‘polynesian’. I don’t use it negatively all the time, I use it very loosely. I’m just using it negatively with you, because you’re an example of typical racist white people churned out of privileged and ignorant lifestyles.

            I don’t identify with my European heritage because it’s on my Dad’s side and I didn’t grow up knowing him or his family. I’ve lived a life of Maori experiences and prejudice.

            And hold up, you’re okay with telling me I’m a mongrel and that I’m not Maori, but I call you [race]+[negative descriptive word] and I’m racist? Yeah haha sure.

            If you’re so unaware of New Zealand issues, why are you here? Why are you commenting on Maori affairs? You clearly know absolutely nothing about us or our treaty.

          • Andy

            Correct, I know nothing about your treaty or you.

            I came here after hearing about some death threats against one of the people in the article.

            I had a neutral attitude towards Maori until recently. This site has shown me what deeply unpleasant and dangerous people Maori activists are.

            I intend to stay away from here and anyone who looks like they might associate with this kind of mentality

            Have a nice day and Christmas.

            Regards

          • Liam Catton

            Thank god. Like I said, love to see you go. Have fun befriending indigenous people who take no issue with oppression.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Oh really andy newmangood bye

          • Kane

            pakeha trash now? ok im just not gna bother you are completely lost kid

          • Kane

            so you propell one group of ancestors while trampling on another? jeezus this arguement was rediculous enough without your identity disorder

          • Andy

            Have you read the Lisbon Treaty? is this relevant to your life?
            Probably not

            The Treaty of Waitangi is not relevant to my life either, so I have no interest in the subject either.

            I have no interest in you, your culture, or anything that you represent. I am not a Kiwi and I have no interest in becoming one

          • nicholas toa

            You just made yourself look like an idiot Andy if you have absolutely no interest in this discussion….why are you clogging it up with your un researched unintelligent answers?

          • Andy

            I am interested to hear that Mt Ansell has received death threats as a result of this site and has referred the matter to the police

          • nicholas toa

            Your showing your true colour know Andy, or whoever you are, sanctimonious racist pricks you say? Hmmmmm is that what you call a darkie asking for justice and equal treatment that other nzers recieve we get a tribunal with no legal power for our court all other nzers get to take their theft complaints to a tribunal, I also notice on one post you abused mr ansell yourself then do a complete flip flop and start defending him….your the creten and the danctimonious racist Andy.

          • Liam Catton

            Can I report to the police the murder and oppression of Maori culture and tupuna because of outdated views like his? I don’t see an apology by the government let alone justice served. I’m very sorry that you’re a victim to the suppression of information about Maori suffering by the government in an effort to ascertain peace and order among Maori, but please do have an open heart.

          • nicholas toa

            I asked if you e read the treaty of Waitangi because its the founding document of our country the treaty of Lisbon has nothing to do with this discussion are you slightly retarded or just dumb?

          • Andy

            The only two native mammals to NZ are both a species of bat

            So when you sanctimonious racist pricks start telling me to go back to “My” country, bear that in mind

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            If you can handle heat brother stay out of the kitchen

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Ow what’s wrong you and I quote I’d rather go back to the country in which I was born then live in this shit hole unquote and further more this is the Pacific all be it south Pacific home of the Pacific peoples mammals now you have evert avenue available to you to discrete undermine disenfranchis marginalise disbelieving our legitimate claims to this country and what happened DID NOT WORK I’ll so you some compassion Ka Aroha

          • Andy

            I have no interest in a political movement run by a racist pig who refers to white people as “White M*therF&ckers”, who takes money of a fat German criminal.
            I have interest in cultures other than my own, but I have no interest in cultures and movements that seem focussed solely on hatred and malcontent.

            I bid you good day, Sir

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Excuse me Mr I didn’t say that you’re white m*ther f@cker all that I said Mr is you’re a condescending prick, so excuse me Mr do you have the time, or are you so important that it stand still for you, excuse me Mr won’t you lend me you’re ear or you not only blind but do you not hear, excuse me Mr can you see the children dying you say that you can’t help them Mr you’re not even trying, excuse me Mr won’t you take a look around oh Mr just look upland you will see what coming down, you see cause Mr when you’re rattling on heavens gate let me tell you Mr by then it is to late ,you see cause Mr when you get there don’t ask what you saved, all they want to know Mr is what you gave so excuse me Mr I’m a Mr too you’re given Mr bad name Mr like you

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Excuse me Mr I didn’t call you a White M*ther F@cker all that I simply said is your a condescending prick
            So excuse me Mr I am not a sir you’re mate meat head, whale hooked might be a sir a sir just like you
            So excuse me Mr do you have the time or are you important that it stand still for you
            So excuse me Mr won’t you lend me you’re ear or are you not only blind but do you not hear
            So excuse me Mr whose is the oil out in the sea and the pollution in the air Mr whose could that be
            So excuse me Mr can’t you see the children dying you say that you can’t help them but you’re not even trying
            So excuse me Mr won’t you take a look around oh Mr just look up and you will see what’s coming down
            You see cause Mr when you’re rattling on heavens gate well let me tell you Mr by then it is to late
            So you see cause mr when you get they don’t ask what you saved all they what know Mr is what you gave
            So I’m taking the Mr out in front of you’re name you’re given Mr bad name Mr like You
            I’ve seen enough I’ve seen enough to know that I have seen to much

          • Liam Catton

            You’ve got no problem with National then? A party that employed John Ansell, a Pakeha who devotes his time to actively advocating for the classification of Maori as second-class citizens under a movement that is funded by a man who sees Maori as either “in prison or on welfare”? However, “white expletive” is crossing the line?

            You’ve got a couple of clashing statements there, Andy. I don’t see how you can be disinterested in movements that seem focussed solely on hatred and malcontent while you’re currently trying to erase the rights of Maori as the tangata whenua?

          • nicholas toa

            So where else in the world is the Maori language and culture found Andy?

          • nicholas toa

            We are in our own country, your really dumb Andy, aren’t you?

          • Andy

            Bondi Beach?

          • nicholas toa

            Sarcasm? Language of the dumb and ignorant Andy….okay dumby the Maori language and culture is ingigenous to new Zealand its a fact..threfore the Maori people are also indigenous to new Zealand. Your an ignoramus Andy its like debating with a five year old.

          • nicholas toa

            Your very persistent with your comments for someone who doesn’t give a shit about our country Andy???

          • nicholas toa

            Haha bats???? What about the kiwi and the kakapo and the weta and the tuatara and the kereru and the pukaka and many more native nz species…you’re dumb Andy admit it…you’re here just to stir up hate….you’re a fool….go back to your own country its now colonised with Muslims.and good on them you deserve it.

          • Andy

            Birds are not mammals.
            When accusing me of being dumb, at least try a bit of basic school level biology

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            When posting two kind of bats you should perhaps check you’re own biological fact Mr

          • Andy
          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Yeah I was felling left out. You didn’t even have the common decency to answer my last post how rude are you?

          • nicholas toa

            No…your brainless Andy.unresearched with factless statements and you don’t care????dumb

          • nicholas toa

            I didn’t say birds were mammals….your dumb

          • nicholas toa

            Like the sick bigots this article is about, dumb with no facts any of you.

          • Andy

            Bats are New Zealand’s only native land mammals.

            http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/native-animals/bats/

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Why are you avoiding me?

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            I’m not a sir Mr I’m a Mr to you’re given Mr bad name Mr like you

          • nicholas toa

            Your wrong you missed out the kuni kuni which is the native pig and the kioro the native rat and the kuri the native dog also the Maori who is the native human you ignorant pakeha believe your own bullshit Andy we didn’t all come on a waka, my iwi never had one, every iwo have a different whakapapa we don’t all decend from waka…..your a expert on nothing Andy.

          • nicholas toa

            I can tell you your whakapapa too Andy its pretty simple, you decend from a monkey….its taught in all of your institutions so you cant deny it.

          • nicholas toa

            And I thought you didn’t give a shit about my shit country Andy?

          • Andy

            e kunekune is believed to have descended from an Asian domestic breed introduced to New Zealand in the early 19th century by whalers or traders.

            http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunekune

          • nicholas toa

            No Andy your wrong again wikipedia will also tell you we all came on waka, those posts are written by pakeha not Maori, your speaking about the captain cooker which is the common wild pig prevalent in our bush today….i thought you didn’t give shit about our shit country….your finally researching…..yaasaeeeee!

          • nicholas toa

            Now research the treaty of Waitangi and see how wrong you were there too…wrong all the time Andy…..dumb in other words.

          • nicholas toa

            And you’ve been up all night? Are you on drugs Andy?

          • nicholas toa

            Wrond again dumby you’re talking about the captain cooker

          • nicholas toa

            Believed too have? So its a guess?

          • nicholas toa

            Your dumb andy

          • Andy

            Thanks for your profound and insightful comment,

            Best Regards

          • nicholas toa

            And you are dumb, the captain cooker is the pig you spoke of…and what of the kiore still alive today?

          • Andy

            They must have evolved too. Or placed by God.

            Best write to the white propagandists at DoC and ask them to update their website

          • nicholas toa

            By your pedantic logic nothing is from anywhere, your dumb Andy…even retarded slightly

          • Andy

            That would be “you’re dumb, even retarded slightly”.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            You full on retard bay England has no native people or peoples white or other wise migration out of Africa is how Europe was settled you see dum arse everyone was born of a black man stick that in your pipe and smoke it cheif

          • Andy

            So everyone came from Africa, except the Maori who “evolved” in NZ

            Fascinating theory

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            No I was drived from a splinter group that settled Asia Malaysia north Pacific and then the south Pacific Mr so this is an informed well documented historical fact so I say to you Mr cause I’m a Mr to you give Mr bad name Mr like you

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Yes everyone in one way or another came from Africa in my particular case a splinter group from Africa migrated to and settled Asia through further migration Malaysia Australia and the north Pacific and then last but by no means least south Pacific. So as you can clearly see my information is based on historical fact OK Mr you’re fascinated by my answer aren’t you Mr and did I tell you I’m a Mr to you’re given Mr bad name Mr like you John Assnell Whale head Alan titford and you’re other cohorts

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            By the looks of things you’re brain could do with some no a lot of evolutionary change eh “Andy Newman”

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            You don’t like talking to me eh Andy you’re dum arse gets owned all the time eh Mr Newman

          • nicholas toa

            You know what I meant …Andy…your general knowledge of the sugekt iz vry dum.

          • nicholas toa

            Your acshualeee a bigot aunt u…Andy.

          • Andy

            You translate alcoholic into the written word really quite well.

          • nicholas toa

            Txting requires no grammer Andy….unlike ur ignorance.when you run out of answers u break into grammer critique and sarcasm like an immature teenager.

          • Andy

            sry I dnt ress u w txtng soz 4 cofzon

          • nicholas toa

            See…sarcasm and immaturity to cover your loss of intelligent dialect

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            What are sea lions Andy reptiles Hector dolphins more reptiles good one Any Newman

          • Liam Catton

            Ah, you’re being condescending. I see we have a scholar in the building. I admire the points you are making, truly.

          • nicholas toa

            Ur akshuly pushing da idea dat Maori don’t cum frm nz Andy that’s the same idea that the bigots this article is about….your agenda is white supremacy isn’t it Undy?

          • Andy

            Are you denying that the Polynesian people arrived in NZ some hundreds of years ago by Waka?

            That seems a shame, since this is possibly on of the most audacious expeditions achieved by humans, given the time and the technology available

            It seems a shame to rewrite history in such a way that diminishes the achievements of your people

          • nicholas toa

            Putting words in my mouth , again Andy,were did I deny that? Your very persistent with your verbal diohrea aren’t you. Some came by waka some walked go figure that one out, that’s my whalapapa and there is also scientific evidence to prove it. Your dumb Andy and I keep saying it…..here is my question to you (dumb sarcasm expected) how did ancient Celts get her? Ask your bigoted friends in the article that’s their story.

          • Andy

            Just to be clear here, you are suggesting that some of the first settlers in NZ came here by walking. Are you also suggesting that the Celts also came here by walking?

            This is getting quite bizarre. Did they walk on water or was NZ connected to somewhere else?

          • nicholas toa

            To a unreasearched dumby its bizarre, go an ask a geologist if during earths history if it was possible, and no I didn’t say the Celts walked here you did…dumby …I asked you how they came here, I think that is bizarre.You and your white supremacist friends are the bizarre ones read the article its full of bizarre statements lol.

          • Andy

            I wasn’t even aware that the Celts had been to NZ.

          • nicholas toa

            You havnt even read this article…..and your commenting on it????haha.lol…moron

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            No they came over on a waka called the may flower as for the celts they sprouted wings out of their ass holes and flew

          • nicholas toa

            Thanks for admitting it.

          • nicholas toa

            Dumb, white supremacist Andy, Maori come from nz and the captain cooker is not the Kuni Kuni, wikipedia professor.

          • nicholas toa

            Your meaning the captain cooker different pig Andy.

          • Andy

            Do show me the scientific references that humans are indigenous to NZ. Did they evolve independently of other humans, or were they place on NZ by God?

          • nicholas toa

            Maori languaga culture and artwork is unique to New Zealand Andy it originates from here, is that proof enough?…sarcasm now I’m expecting?

          • Andy

            So the fact that artwork is native to NZ implies that humans evolved in NZ, independently of the rest of the world?. I’d write a paper and get your Nobel Prize that awaits you…

          • nicholas toa

            Now your putting words in my mouth Andy….then implying that I said them….dumb Andy….like the bigots this article is about. If our culture and language is unique to this country we must be from here. We settled this land and we are a combination of more than one race…the pure race theory is a white concept not a Maori one we are a people and a culture just like other people and cultures, is there an English race or an American race Andy? No of course not well scientifically there is no such race as a Maori…its you white supremacist who put that out not us. Charles Darwin was a racist bigot.

          • Andy

            I never mentioned a “pure race theory”.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Yes you did and what’s more I don’t like prejudice right wing Maori hateing Zenafoebs who shear Nazi party and the Bush party separatists views calling me a bush nigga black M*ther F@cker who get Jew money from the New Zealand tax payer to spread propaganda it’s a bit like me eating KFC I wouldn’t buy that shit so some Klansman of the southern States of America to burn crosses on some poor nigga brother’s lawn homy don’t roll like that
            So I bid fair well SIR

          • nicholas toa

            The Maori culture is unique to new Zealand Andy Maori are not a race there is no such race as a Maori, is there a Chinese English or American race? We were known by Iwi names before Europeans came here.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            No idiot artwork veryies around the world you want me to own you’re arse again ?? I do stand more chance of getting the covenanted Nobel peace award than you they do not give it to Nazi sympathizers like you Mr all you would get is shown the exit in fact OK Mr

          • Andy

            I express an interest in bats and you deduce that I am a Nazi sympathiser

            Do you actually expect anyone to take you seriously?

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Seriously you have no interest in bats you’re only interest keeping the wheels of you’re propaganda hate machine rolling I’m from the central Plato I from childhood have always known about the bats and all I can say is if you’re bor’s from DOC don’t stop dropping DDT or 1080 these bats you claimed to have an interest in will no longer exist !!

          • Andy

            Actually I do have an interest in bats. I researched this independently, and last week i walked the Milford Track where one of the rangers asked the question “which mammal is the only indigenous mammal to NZ”, which i answered “bat”, and the ranger said, “yes, correct”.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Well both of use are wrong actually. But getting side tracked did he give you you’re Nobel prize ?

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            You show me references scientific or other wise that there humans indigenous to England. Have use not stolen enough native lands. My grandfather went to benne dale native school a title given to my ancestry by a English man.
            Now you want to come over here and tell us different ? Eh Andy Newman you make me laugh. Anyone in England trying to abolish English seats in you’re Parliament NO so what is you’re agenda? Just like bush and the CIA blow up the twin towers to make enemies of the Muslims. The only territories in the wold are you and you’re superpower friends you just got own again NEXT

          • Liam Catton

            Are you using the common definition of the term ‘indigenous’, or the special made-up Andy definition?

          • Andy

            I am using the term defined in the white motherfucker Internet thing

          • Ovicula

            Seals are. So are Maui dolphins.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Oh is that were you are PM me when you come back to our country and I’ll put on a formal Maori welcome for you!

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            You a cry baby

          • Ovicula

            Not slightly retarded. Very. A racist piece of shit. I hope he has left.

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            What is lesbians treaty ???

          • nicholas toa

            Wr only want justice, your being totally ignorant.

          • Andy

            That would be “you’re totally ignorant” as opposed to “your”

            Yes, I want justice too. The fat German behind bars would be a good start

          • nicholas toa

            Semantics to avoid the subject?

          • Hiritanga Heremaia

            wrong saying lol….U just said the Jew word with no recomendation….U just gone way off track Andy

    • Liam Catton

      Yes, Andy, spot on. Some Pakeha are absolutely blind. Can’t see past your own nose, or at least, some kind of collective nose that represents all white New Zealanders. I’d love to see you go.

      • Andy

        What makes you think I am Pakeha, you judgmental racist prick?

        • Liam Catton

          What makes me think you’re Pakeha is your racist attitude towards Maori.

          • Andy

            I haven’t shown any racist attitudes to these foaming at the mouth semi-literate braindead retards that infest this site. What the fuck is a “pakeha” anyway?

          • Quentin Tuwhangai

            Why are you getting so angry for Andy Newman why are you swearing? Have you no common dessencey have you no humanity a pakeha is a New Zealand white man

          • Kane

            kid your so far left your gna need a crutch before you fall over. i look at your picture and then your statement and i just cant help but laugh my ass off. your people have cured almost every disease they have found. your people have raised more from poverty than every other culture on earth combined. your people spilled their own blood to eradicate slavery the FIRST and only culture in our known history to have ever done so.every culture has its evils and evil DOES NOT have a colour. you are not a descendent of any king or robber baron that invaded these islands you are an absolutely normal human being just like anyone else and you dont owe any maoris anything. maoris are as capable of feeding and clothing themselves as you are and by assuming they for whatever reason need YOUR help you are simply being the white supremacist you attempt to trample

          • Liam Catton

            I can’t be a white supremacist if I’m not white lmao

          • Kane

            then you are wearing some pretty heavy duty make up kid

          • Liam Catton

            Sorry have you not heard of interracial couples? White skin ≠ white person.

          • Kane

            yes..your skin is white you are a white person. we arent talking about blood.we are talking about the rediculous statement you made which says you are not white. next to a photo of some baby faced white kid lol

          • Liam Catton

            There’s no official scale of whiteness to qualify you as a white person or not. I’m not a white person and it’s not up to you to dictate who I am. I know my identity and it’s not negotiable. We are talking about ethnicity, not skin colour, as you said “you dont owe any maoris anything” as if I’m not a Maori myself. Ethnically, I’m a handful of races, including yes Maori and pakeha, among others like African and Irish. Culturally, I was raised by my Maori heritage therefore I am Maori before anything else. I am not a white person.

          • Kane

            im not dictating anything you have a photo of a white kid as your profile pic. im a handful of races aswell technically by now you could say we are all a lil of everything. that doesnt mean i prop up one set of ancestors and trample another,they all have filthy hands. anyways this has gone on for far to long and has no beneficial relevance to either of our lives il finish by saying i am sorry if you have been offended by my statements and i wish you and yours all the best take care

  • Pat from New Zealand

    John Ansell, Treatygate – Martin Doutre, ONZF – Alan Titford, ONZF – Muriel Newman, NZCPR , disgusting and vile I shudder to think what the future may hold for our rangatahi when faced with this sort of bullshit…it is blatantly obvious that their sole purpose is to denigrate,criticize ,and belittle maori on all and any level…shameful humanbeings.I am a proud maori from the hokianga ,my line is from Te Whaia o te Motu..to hear and see these people talk as if maori were no better than the brown stuff beneath their shoe is upsetting and uncalled for…they have misconstrued history and fashioned it to suit the purpose…which is the eradication of all things maori… e Quinten kia kaha e hoa , kia tautoko ki to korero ki to mihi kia koe kia ora.

    • Quentin Tuwhangai

      Thank you Pat for your informed opinion trying to educate some people is an argust task when the only thing their interested in is to try and discredit a personal belief. I will admit that some have got the right idea and are on the right track but their opinions are as oppressed as ours, and because they are in control of the media out let’s we will never have a fair balanced input into our past history or into the future decisions of our country. It does sadden me that our Rangatahi will have an up hill battle on their hands for equality and Justice for crunt and past legitimate grievances against the crown and the government of the day
      Tena koe Pat

  • Whip Albright

    Gotta say i’m pretty sick of Maoris complaining about shit. You’ll never get your land back. Like never. It won’t happen so just fuck up about it. So your tribes can’t charge everyone rent and all become millionaires and do no work…so what? Get a life and do something else. You know where complaining and moaning and crying got anyone? No fucking where. Look, everyone would like to hit the lotto, its just that in your case the lottery ceased to exist in like 1840 when you all traded NZ for a button or whatever lmao.

  • Jerome Williams

    Maori will eventually crush the crown & reclaim what was stolen!!!

  • Hugh Robb

    Quentin. You are right. The injustices were done.
    And those need to be addressed.
    This is not racial. That is a divide and rule tactic.
    This is about wealth and privilege and greed.
    Maori, pakeha and all need to lay down this hate. Work together for the benefit of all.
    Kia kaha brother and keep that passion. Direct it wisely.

  • gcaisle

    This is what I have to say: Pakeha colonialist Motherflicker overstayers, flick off back to Europe and leave the Maori alone. And I say that with kindness in my heart. Aotearoa has no place for brain dead dorks who still think they live in Europe. You are not wanted. Take your right wing selfish bs and flick off

  • gcaisle
  • Anna

    That helps to clarify the network. I joined the facebook group and engage sporadically. Trying to understand what motivates them. My friends can’t handle it for more than a few minutes, they get too angry. It’s a self-reinforcing echo chamber of cultural chauvinism and racial hatred, stereotypes, generalised insults, historical re-writes. It needs to be watered down with new members competent (I’m not) to respond. This incremental approach might actually help in the long run. But most people will get too angry. Where to you start with this example? Disabuse?

  • Asher Morley

    Ill be interested if, in their cunning ways, they have any influence on ‘Maori literature’ and other sources of ‘Maori information’. I watched a great clip where Maori scholar Dr Rangi Mataamua described how wrong we have been with Matariki.
    https://www.maoritelevision.com/news/latest-news/native-affairs-matariki-myths
    How could we have got it SO wrong! Easy, we, as humans have a tenancy to generally accept information based on literature. If you were able to be subtle in changing truths in small ways over an extended period of time they can easily become overlooked and misunderstood. Just
    I was told by a dear friend that the best way to destroy a race of people is not by war and bloodshed, but by removing their identity. And what better way to do this than to teach their young people the ways their ancestors didn’t live and convince them they did.
    I am a High school teacher and have looked up Matariki amongst our resources. I am no Astronomer nor scholar but if what Dr Mataamua says is true then why is EVERY book in my school on Matariki so wrong!

  • James Hawthorne

    “Hate hate hate divide divide divide KKK KKK evil evil evil”. Sounds like a very bad dream. Divide and rule. For the bankers. Same strategy being used in the USA and across Europe. Very successful strategy – with one guaranteed outcome, more control for the government, opps – and ongoing record foregin bank profits and child abuse. That’s 3 outcomes. Same as we have had for the past 20 years. More to come I guess.

  • James Hawthorne

    The traditional Maori Moko mirrors Egyptian solar worship – high priests – 13 stripes on one side, 14 on the other and one down the middle for the solstice is 13×14 +1 = 183 – the half year. Ancient universal knowledge, much like Maori knowledge of the stars and navigation, shared word wide long ago – now all covered up by the bankers and their media as they seek to divide and rule over us- due to our forgetfulness, constantly forgetting we are all one – 2 eyes, 2 hands, two feet, hearts and souls. Politicians are the bottom feeders that help the cover up and get rich off it. From all sides.

  • Sara Cooper

    Thank you for this education. Because I do not think that way, I have not considered that any other would think this way but, of course they do… I am sorry that this is the reality we live in.

  • Karl Teariki

    Nothing brings people together like sharing a hatred of someone else

  • Taser

    Everyone is an immigrant in this country including maori who originate from Taiwan. I don’t know who was first here in NZ but the non maori archaeology up north should be investigated properly not a banned area and hiding info for 75 yrs if maori weren’t worried about something.

  • Greg Davis

    What garbage Trinder. You have much to learn but you don’t want to learn. Racist.

  • Rikihana Lutherus

    My first taste of these clowns , they are out the gate , first time ive ever experienced racism like it. https://www.facebook.com/derrick.storey.37/posts/10212421114468788?notif_t=comment_mention&notif_id=1490249614175333

  • Tiana Griffin

    You missed out that sickening group that is Hobsons Pledge and all their anti-maori followers 🙁

  • Te Rangimarie Park

    Maori people have a mission to do that is God given, and those pakeha and non pakeha treat each other minus the religious history makeup first decided upon by the first New Zealanders.
    Maori people must represent, then backward notions and ideals can be stopped by people funding into employment initiatives.
    An idea which needs representation I think is a WW11 Memorial for the Maori Battalion to give to the Nazi victims ie. holocaust victims in NZ. Ka mau te wehi.

  • Sumatra McGee

    Of Course they are *FED UP* That is because their *conscience* is being challenged to accept the WRONGS* and the BLATANT theft and ABUSE of TANGATA WNENUA. My advise.. STAND UP… OWN IT,, and CORRECT IT… Then maybe just maybe.. you will be able to sleep comfortably and find piece at last
    ..

  • gregfullmoon

    Hi Joe, might be good to update the article for the contemporary situation now that Hobson’s Pledge is out and about doing their one law for all thing fronted by Don Brash and Auckland business manager Casey Costello:

    http://pundit.co.nz/content/hobsons-choice-trumps-hobsons-pledge-0

    Here’s their website:

    http://www.hobsonspledge.nz/

    And in their last comment on this NBR are seeking a response to the Graeme Edwards piece:

    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/opinion-hobsons-pledge-%E2%80%93-play-ball-not-man-b-195498

  • Elaine Mander

    What a load of tripe

  • Krang

    Mercedes Maoris have sold their people out for less than 1c on the dollar with treaty negotiations, of course they would defend their personal fiefdoms at any cost in the face of an intelligent debate.